June 25, 2014

Rare stamps!!

real stamps on an envelope!

I actually got some stamps on an envelope in the mail this morning. The fact that it was from another dealer in Machin stamps says it all really. Are we the only people who are now using these? Is this 'collecting' lark merely a sort of self-perpetuating affair where Royal Mail know that we're the only people buying them and just produce all sorts of variations for the fun of it and watch contentedly as people like me write articles encouraging you to acquire this or that?

Oh well, for the benefit of those who are still awake and wondering what is new out there, here are the latest developments and issues.


The first is a 2nd Large DLR with M14L date code. Then there's a book of 12 Walsall 2nd CB showing M14L MTIL which will doubtless be the most frequently found stamp on post this year so not exactly worth a fortune but needed nonetheless if you're going to keep that collection complete.


Next we have three more DLR items. A 10p, 20p  and 1st Large showing M14L.




Now there's is something surprising. A new Post And Go print showing both Euro 20g and World 10g which are now the same price but it must have been confusing for people wanting to send something 9g to somewhere that wasn't in Europe. To be honest, I get confused by the rates and weights anyway and really do wonder whether this idea of NVIing everything is that bright after all.


It all started with 1st and 2nd and then E came along when we had a perfectly adequate 34p stamp (or whatever the rate was at the time). I suppose it did mean that we could buy stamps and carry on using them after a rate change and got a little bit of satisfaction from the fact that spending all that money in advance had saved us a few pence later. So those made some sense and it always seemed pretty reasonable to buy an Airmail envelope (actually, maybe that was where it started now I think about it) and just pay whatever the latest price was for the flimsy sheet of blue paper.

The latest flurry of activity around these rates and weights, though, seems to be heading for confusion. They are trying to hang on to six for the 'collector's strips' as all sorts of problems will develop if there are numbers like 11 or 5. The NCR machine putting values on the labels seems to be going back to the original idea of a stamp but just adding the value at the end instead of us having to buy a range and make up the rate ourselves.

For now, though, the Post And Gos continue apace with these two overprint issues, 'The B.P.M.A. on Flags and Machin olives. Both these have the new dual value although here in Type 4 font at the same point size for both lines, unlike the NCR Type 2a font with its different sizes.


The Machin Post And Gos here all have an MA13 date code. I imagine there must be a lot of that year's backing around so it could be some time before we see MA14. The NCRs below are the 'normal' basic set which I think I have featured before but that may have been with no date code or a strip I had earlier. the Worldwide 10g and 40g values will exist as these were still in being when the first NCRs appeared and will be worth hanging on to.


Of course, there is still no mention from some dealers of the other NCRs - the ones with the actual values printed that I have written about recently. I am still none the wiser as to whether they are indeed likely to be a myriad different denominations for those. I am pretty sure there will be - a similar range to those we see on Horizon labels seems logical although perhaps the 'Signed For' denominations and one or two others can't be included because there would need to be some paperwork kept behind the counter and if someone had to queue up afterwards to hand that over it defeats the purpose of the automatic machines.


So far, I have to say that by far the most common labels I am seeing on post are the Horizon gold ones. They're awkward to collect but do seem to be the range that is surviving. I will write about them in an article soon.


June 02, 2014

Slightly more interesting... NCRs


 

So here are the first NCR 'Open Value' labels on Spring Flowers that I have seen. In fact they're the first on any pictorial Post and Go label that I've seen. These are the new denominations, as are the Machins that I have also acquired. 

Now I still don't know whether these represent all that can be obtained or whether, by pressing different buttons, other codes and denominations can be printed, as listed and suggested, or should I say, feared, in an earlier post. 

Whilst I think the Machin head issues are a must for any GB definitive (and, of course, any Machin) collector I am not sure I feel duty bound any more to keep up with the pictorials. It's good to have some early examples of almost any series but, if this style becomes standard then I am seriously considering collecting just the Machin head items. I suppose that'll have to include the ruddy overprints which I dislike but just feel very relieved that they're not on ordinary definitives!

I do collect pictorial definitives for Regional issues but they have been extremely modest in output. In 5 years there have been 67 different pictorial labels. That's just the picture, no account taken of fonts, date codes or whatever. The Regional Pictorials over 14 years have been just four main and a few odd additional items for each of the four nations. And if there has been a change then we haven't had to buy six denominations for each image! 

As it is my understanding that any roll can be fitted into the NCR style machines, there is a possibility of almost any of those 67 designs appearing. OK, some must be pretty remote but they're the ones that make the headlines and we all wish we'd found. This business of stamp collecting is all about completeness - you really do want to feel that you stand some vague chance of getting a complete set of things. I just don't feel that way about the Post And Go pictorials now, especially now with the NCR potential for huge additions to the series, old rolls being found in cupboards and six more of each for every rate change introduced.

If it wasn't for the fact that I have only recently added back in Post And Go overprints on a standing order with a dealer I would cancel any new pictorials now. I can live without Flowers II, III and whatever comes next. I could happily watch news of the latest overprint on Dogs IX appearing on NCR 60g varieties in font style 8.5. The Machins would be more than enough. I think I had better wait for a few months though and just try and sell all the pictorial stuff that I have and comes in.

I do think I have finally come to a conclusion. Basically - stick to Machins. Duh, of all people, I really should have figured that out long ago!

May 31, 2014

Possibly the most boring post in the world

I have to post this as it is the only reasonably accessible record of what comes in and to illustrate what I include in my catalogue. How long I can face much more of this, though, is unsure!

Undated, type 4
Undated, Type 4
Undated, Old values, Type 4 (from Jersey)
  

New values. Undated. Type 2. 

MA13 Type 4

Undated. Type 4
This has to be the most tedious post I have ever written! These items arrived today, being variations along the lines I had expected tp get plus a couple of oddities. One oddity is the old values in a strip using Type 4 font on Flags. That came from a Post Office in Jersey. I think they're getting their own Post And Gos. Good luck to them!

The other is a really amateur-looking Type 2 font with amended 60g values, also on Flags.

Otherwise these are just the BPMA and 85th Scottish Congress overprints on different backing with or without dates.

That's all I'm going to say.

May 05, 2014

Overwhelmed with overprints on Post and Gos

 

We start with no less than three new BPMA Post and Gos. A 'Series A' issue with code MA13 in the old values from mid February. Then the updated 'Series B' with MA13 and then the same 'Series B' on Flag type labels. These last two were only available from 24 March 2014 so you can see how few will have been produced with the old set of values, making these two strips particularly scarce.


Next we have two 85th Scottiosh Congress issues - one on the plain Machin labels and the other on Flags. These are both 'Series B' and also were issued after the rate change so have the new sequence of values. Let's give Post and Gos a rest for a moment and deal with something much simpler.


A Cartor printed England regional £1.28 has appeared with the vignetted style of phosphor. The 2012 printing just had very wide phosphor bands with the same density throughout. This has just sneaked out without anyone telling us so look out for it.



A strip of 'Series B' old values on undated Machin labels.


2nd Class Post and Gos now with MA13 codes - you really would think they'd be MA14 by now! Just shows how slowly some rolls are being used up.


The new values produced on the old Wincor machines. On commentator remarked how poorly the 60g had been set up by the engineers, hinting that they might not have been too bothered knowing that in a week or so's time their contract was up and the new NCR type machines would be replacing theirs anyway.

Now some more M14L and MA14 codes

M14L De La Rue

M14L De La Rue

M14L De La Rue

M14L MTIL

M14L MCIL
MA14 MBIL
This has been an expensive time and led me to wonder seriously if I should give up on the Post and Gos. I have had to reorder the overprints which I had abandoned briefly because they can be the sole source of some changes at times. If they were just an existing issue with an overprint then I am happy to let them go but where they appear first or even seem to be the only example of a particular type then I do need them.

It has been interesting to see how dealers are reacting to all this. One has very efficiently supplied as many pairs of the new values as they can whilst another is still looking as, theoretically, whatever roll can go in the machine could have the new values printed on it and no doubt some offices somewhere have an old roll or two lying around that will surprise us in years to come and mean that we can never be entirely sure which may or may not appear with the new values.

So far no-one has offered the NCR type of Open Values, other than someone on Ebay, where I got my 'set' of pre rate change values. B Alan Ltd appear to be thinking about supplying a few samples on each colour of background for those who order them. They are regarding them as similar to the old larger label that could also have a whole range of denominations. The difference, though, is that this label is distinctly stamp-like, specifically Post and Go-stamp like, same dimensions, perforations and so forth. So if you collect Post and Gos then I really do think you will kick yourself hard in years to come if you don't include as many denominations of the new ones as you can find or afford.

Just as the Post and Gos have changed in just a short while, so too will these Open Values - different alignment, font changes and, who knows, use on rolls of Flowers or whatever. Keeping my lists up to date, though, has been a nightmare with so many variations: Flag or Machin, date or no date code, font type 2 or 4, series A or B! Crazy. I am still on the verge of abandoning them but probably won't. As for the NCRs, I actually prefer them as 'stamps to collect' to the pictorial Post and Gos but whether I will be able to figure out any sensible way to determine what to collect has yet to be seen.

April 29, 2014

Palace News

While I wait for what I fear will be a massive bill and several envelopes full of Post And Gos of all sorts I thought I should update you with the latest expense - the Buckingham Palace prestige book with its tradional Machin pane. You do have to wonder what will happen to the World should a prestige booklet not be issued with a pane of eight Machin definitives (or some with a few Regional pictorials thrown in) and a strange label in the middle serving no useful purpose at all.

There are several pages of fine-looking pictorials with different stages of the Palace's development over the centuries and some internal views too. It's all quite interesting and well produced. Here's the pane that matters, though; the sole reason I buy these things.


Three new stamps here, obviously. Each of the 10p, 20p and £1 definitives has M14L MPIL code and they are gummed and printed by Enschedé.



There is also a booklet of two pictorials with four 1st Class definitives. these are the first appearance of M14L MCIL and come from Walsall.


April 12, 2014

More Post And Gos arrive

The good people at Norvic have been busy and today the two new denominations for a number of different issues arrived. The Robin pair have code MA13, the others undated. I have a feeling there are plenty more still to come. I am also dreading the arrival of pictorial rolls in Post Offices with the new NCR machines. Royal Mail will be getting more revenue from us collectors than people actually wanting to send letters.

These have a curious mixture of fonts!











38 denominations and counting

Sometimes I don't quite know why I do things but I wondered just how many different denominations might appear at current rates on the new NCR Post And Go Labels. I guess these may also be what you'd find on Horixon labels too. I haven't covered huge great packages or International Tracked or all sorts of Special Delivery before, during and after breakfast services. The list below, though, should cover all the prices up to about £5. It may be of interest to someone.

If anyone cares to let me have the previous rates then I can add them to this table and that would then be a pretty complete list. Having said that, I don't yet know whether the NCR labels can, indeed, be used for all these services. It may be that some aren't possible. That would be nice to know and I could then cut the list down a bit.

One thing's for sure. I have now decided that I shall not be setting out to collect mint examples of each one!

£ PriceTypeWeightService
0.532nd Class Letter<100g td="">UK Std
0.621st Class Letter<100g td="">UK Std
0.732nd Class Large Letter<100g td="">UK Std
0.81Small Parcel<20g td="">Int Economy
0.931st Class Large Letter<100g td="">UK Std
0.97Letter<10g td="">Int StandardWordwide Z1Worldwide Z2
0.97Letter<20g td="">Int StandardEurope
1.172nd Class Large Letter<250g td="">UK Std
1.241st Class Large Letter<250g td="">UK Std
1.28Letter<20g td="">Int StandardWordwide Z1Worldwide Z2
1.43Letter<60g td="">Int Economy
1.47Letter<60g td="">Int StandardEurope
1.482nd Class Large Letter<500g td="">UK Std
1.632nd Class Letter<100g td="">Signed For
1.721st Class Letter<100g td="">Signed For
1.832nd Class Large Letter<100g td="">Signed For
2.012nd Class Large Letter<750g td="">UK Std
2.02Letter<100g td="">Int Economy
2.031st Class Large Letter<100g td="">Signed For
2.15Letter<60g td="">Int StandardWordwide Z1Worldwide Z2
2.272nd Class Large Letter<250g td="">Signed For
2.341st Class Large Letter<250g td="">Signed For
2.36Letter<100g td="">Int StandardEurope
2.381st Class Large Letter<750g td="">UK Std
2.582nd Class Large Letter<500g td="">Signed For
2.751st Class Large Letter<500g td="">Signed For
2.80Small Parcel<1kg td="">UK Std
2.80Small Parcel<100g td="">Int Economy
3.112nd Class Large Letter<750g td="">Signed ForSigned For
3.20Small Parcel<1kg td="">UK Std
3.20Letter<100g td="">Int StandardEurope
3.481st Class Large Letter<750g td="">Signed For
3.48Letter<100g td="">Int StandardWordwide Z1Worldwide Z2
3.65Small Parcel<250g td="">Int Economy
3.70Small Parcel<250g td="">Int StandardEurope
3.80Small Parcel<2kg td="">UK Std
3.80Small Parcel <100g td="">Int StandardWordwide Z1
3.90Small Parcel<1kg td="">Signed For
4.00Small Parcel <100g td="">Int StandardWorldwide Z2
4.30Small Parcel<1kg td="">Signed For
4.75Small Parcel<250g td="">Int StandardWordwide Z1
4.90Small Parcel<2kg td="">Signed For
5.05Small Parcel<250g td="">Int StandardWorldwide Z2

April 10, 2014

I shall just have to start writing to myself

These are a couple of items from the new NCR range that I have obtained. The others I have are 2LG (69p), 1LG (90p), A Letter (under 10g 88p) A Letter (between 10g and20g £1.28) and A Letter (over 20g £1.88) which may or may not be complete as I am getting confused. Yes, Europe up to 20g seems to be missing. (If anyone can help with that, at the old rate, do let me know). These are all at the old rates so I suppose I now have to get another set at the new rates. That set will also be different in that some weight points were merged.

What I don't know, and hope someone will advise, is whether there will be also versions of these with other denominations - as for the Horizon labels which could result in a huge range of possible different prices being shown. At that point I wouldn't try and get any more than a basic range and anything else that appears in the post of bundles I get from time to time is nice but not essential.

Collecting British stamps has never been simple but now I feel we are going through a distinctly odd period when I think several variations of these labels will appear before finally. in time, a standard is settled upon. Some of these may well prove to be extremely short-lived and, not being available or even promoted by many people at all, will for many be items you'll kick yourself for having missed as prices for one or two of them soar.

I really can't imagine that there will many old rate examples used on mail at all. They're the things to look out for. Even current rates of normal Post And Go issues, never mind these, are scarce unless you happen to have a lot of customers living near towns with machines. Actually, now I think about it, I'm lucky to get any stamp nowadays!


April 04, 2014

All change. Like a stamp, really.

Oh boy. Look at what is now being issued.


It seems that there are some new NCR machines have been installed - the first was actually in Harpenden, Hertfordshire, not far away from me at all! This is what they are producing after rather a lot of screen touches, I am reliably informed. The stamps have what is termed Open Value so are similar to the gold Horizon labels and have a letter to specify the service and the post cost is displayed. 

Example showing the old rates will be in short supply so I would recommend getting those wherever you can from a decent dealer. The machines have only been operational in a few places since the beginning of March so the old rates were applicable for just a few weeks at most.

From here, you need to consider just what to collect. My first thoughts on these would be that I will need one from each type of service. Maybe I should rephrase that; I would like one from each type (as I have no idea how many there will be or how easy some would be to obtain). A standing order would, I presume, be one of the standard rate items for each 'issue'. Some will want them on each design within an issue too. Not me.

I still have a lot to learn about these. For instance, I have seen examples where the destination post code is printed on the label. I guess this is a choice at a screen where you can either print to use there and then or perhaps use on whatever you like later, like a NVI but, of course, with value indicated. Like a stamp, really.


Over 60g. Over 60 new items you'll need in your Post And Go collection! Oh dear.

Europe up to 60g and Worldwide up to 60g rates were included in the postal rate changes announced recently so that means there'll be some new labels! Quite a few, in fact. Oh dear.

The good people at Norphil.co.uk think they may be supplying them on each of the following:

Sheep
Pigs
Cattle
Flags Birds 4
and maybe some Freshwater Life.

The MA13 Robins, MA13 Flags, MA13 and undated Machins are pretty much the normal ones too.

I hesitate to add them up but those who like to get every combination possible have one hell of task (and bill) ahead of them. Two new denominations for each of the six pictorials. That's twelve for each of the four series they reckon they'll be found on. Forty eight. Add two each for Flags, Flags MA13, Robins, Machin and Machin MA13 is another ten. Fifty eight so far.

And who knows what else will emerge by way of even older rolls, fonts, overprints. Oh Heavens, I forgot the overprints!